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Hey Rogal --
Hey Rogal --
Is is possible to convert existing tables to collapsible tables, or does it require a whole new table to be created? Also, how do I shrink the overall footprint of my signature, simlar to Kahlen Rahl's? &nbsp;<span style="font-family:'Arial Black';background:black; padding:6px 3px; font-size:smaller;"><span style="background:red; color:white; padding:3px; padding-left:5px; white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Walsh the Beloved|{{color|white|'''WALSH THE BELOVED'''}}]] {{!}} <span style="font-family:'Arial';">[[User talk:Walsh the Beloved|{{color|yellow|''Talk ''}}]]{{!}}''18:16, Monday, 8 December 2014''</span></span></span>&#32;
Is is possible to convert existing tables to collapsible tables, or does it require a whole new table to be created? Also, how do I shrink the overall footprint of my signature, simlar to Kahlen Rahl's? &nbsp;<span style="font-family:'Arial Black';background:black; padding:6px 3px; font-size:smaller;"><span style="background:red; color:white; padding:3px; padding-left:5px; white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Walsh the Beloved|{{color|white|'''WALSH THE BELOVED'''}}]] {{!}} <span style="font-family:'Arial';">[[User talk:Walsh the Beloved|{{color|yellow|''Talk ''}}]]{{!}}''18:16, Monday, 8 December 2014''</span></span></span>&#32;
:For the second question, remove or lower the padding value <code>padding:3px;</code>. I'll let Rogal grab the other question because I'm honestly not sure. <span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">~ [[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#d40000;">vonPreu<span style="font-size:larger; position:relative;top:2px;right:1px;">''ſ''</span></span>]][[User talk:Michael von Preußen#top|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;right:2px;">3en</span>]]</span>

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Hello + Wiki business

Hi and pleased to meet you, I see you're continuing on MvP's and Locke's work as an admin, which is awesome. Anyway, recently I ran into some vandalism on the Disorder War page, since, it's coming from IP/anonymous users, perhaps a semi-protect might help curb this type of vandalism.  —   Imperator    talk    contribs     22:40, Saturday, 1 February 2014 (GMT +8)

I'm not Rogal, but done :P. Thanks for pointing that out.  Bobogoobo | Talk | Nation 16:20, Saturday, 1 February 2014 (ET)
Thanks Bobogoobo. :)  —   Imperator    talk    contribs    21:55, Sunday, 2 February 2014 AWST
Thanks for catching that Bobo. I haven't been very active in CN since I moved back home. Also, nice to meet you Imperator! :) —  RogalDorn   06:24, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

SVG maker

Rudolph on IRC told me about a tool I hadn't heard of that convert images to SVG. It's implemented in Inkscape (Path-->Trace Bitmap, or Ctrl+Shift+B) with colors as well. It seems to have trouble being very accurate with most of the flags I've tried, though. Maybe you could try it on other things you want to vectorize and see how it does.  Bobogoobo | Talk | Nation 22:57, Friday, 7 February 2014 (ET)

By and large it's a piece of crap. I used it for some of my very early SVG experiments, but as you noted, its accuracy is scant. The colored version is even worse, because it creates one giant layer for each color, and overlays them on top of each other with holes for lower layers to show through, rather than only tracing the area that is actually a particular color. This is so particularly bad that if you open a file made this way in a web browser, you can see every color load in: because it inflates the file size while it's at it. Here's an example. Just sit and watch it load. Uguu. ~ vonPreuſ3en
Oh god... my eyes! —  RogalDorn   04:13, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
Hahaha. Was wondering why it lagged Inkscape to heck. Wonder if you could use that to make the equivalent of a GIF :P  Bobogoobo | Talk | Nation 20:48, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 (ET)

Hey there!

Query me on IRC sometime. I still can't access your forums, so I can't reply to your PM! ~ vonPreuſ3en

Oh shucks! sure thing! —  RogalDorn   03:46, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

image license

hey, what is the license for your pic ( can i use it? Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 19:58:04 April 13, 2014 (UTC)

It's not my picture but it doesn't have a license so feel free as far as I'm concerned. —  RogalDorn   21:46, April 13, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Rogal, when you have a moment could you please look at the NPOemperortimeline template and see if I updated that correctly? I think I might have missed something as even if I put Letum's reign in at 800 days it was still this tiny little compressed section on the end.

Thanks! -Imperial Empire (talk • contribs) 07:53, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

You did it correctly IE. The reason it stayed tiny is because the |nationage= parameter is a fixed amount of days with the {{Seniority}} template there. But the Seniority template there is what makes it stay up to date in real time along with the {{Seniority}} template on the reigning emperor's |days#= parameter. Cheers! —  RogalDorn   08:20, May 21, 2014 (UTC)


Thanks :) i'm gonna try and be little more proactive nowadays when I can King dope (talk • contribs) 17:49, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Category Stupid

Hey, I added the Defunct Department category to the Imperial Academy page, then I found out they weren't technically defunct so I need to undo that change, only I can't see a way of actually removing it. It doesn't appear on the right hand side in the editor when I edit the page, so I don't know where it's sitting to strip it. Can you take a look please and let me know how I can adjust that in future? Thanks! -- Imperial Empire (talk • contribs) 17:43, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

It seems to have been added by the defunct = yes tag in the infobox. Changing that to 'no' fixed it. ~ vonPreuſ3en
Thanks for fixing that MvP, good to see you still around. -- Imperial Empire (talk • contribs) 17:57, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
No problem. I like to lurk :3 ~ vonPreuſ3en

Delete request

Hey Rogal, could you delete this page please?

We (the GPA) are revising our wiki pages, and that has been marked for deletion because the Dove's Wing only had two issues.

Dragonshy, President of the GPA

on behalf of Bladegolem47, Director of Communications

CloudSpirit (talk • contribs) 03:09, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Done Dragonshy! —  RogalDorn   04:54, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you :) CloudSpirit (talk • contribs) 15:33, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

House Sitter Guard

Can you please fix the House Sitter Guard article so that the main title is "House Sitter Guard of the New Pacific Order" rather than "House-Sitter Guard of the New Pacific Order" so the hyphen is removed? Thanks! -- Imperial Empire (talk • contribs) 07:37, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Heya IE, sorry it took a bit, done though! :) —  RogalDorn   04:51, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Rogal! -- Imperial Empire (talk • contribs) 14:03, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Still lurking eh?

Yeah, I come by to visit every so often--just to see if anything new happens or there's vandalism and no one spot it yet. Looking back at my old articles and pages, I admit I'm cringing... Aside from that, glad to see you're still working hard as admin! :) JustinVuong | Talk | Nation 00:28, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

Hehe, why are you cringing at your old work? Do you ever miss CN? —  RogalDorn   07:03, July 1, 2014 (UTC)
I looked at how naïve I was and the glaring inconsistencies/contradictions my RP often had. I don't want to go into too much details on what specifically hit me hard at home but things like New Disparu (and the situation that followed with Pikachurin as a result of the article) or this horribly named article: the Jihad War. Also, the reason I moved my user page to a subset is because how horrible it looks (now I know why Bobogoobo said mines wasn't aesthetically pleasing) and the content on it wasn't so great either. Typical of what a middle schooler would have done though. (Not implying I'm anymore mature now.)
Although, I don't RP anymore, it has left me politically active (I'm now a "pragmatic" libertarian) so this definitely left an impact on me. I miss the people from CN (I am still on contact with some outside the community) but the game? Not at all. Busy in real life and lack of interest to return CN are the main reasons why I haven't shown up again at NPO :p Time will tell though. JustinVuong | Talk | Nation 16:02, July 5, 2014 (UTC)


How are you? I stopped playing CN for a while, but I have a new CyberNations account now. :) Happy65 Talk NAO 13:11, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Happy, what are you up to now that you're back in CN? Where did you wind up? Or did you remake NAO? —  RogalDorn   07:03, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

I made a new nation and I'm a member of NATO. Happy65 Talk NAO 15:36, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Trade Confusion

Hey, I just wanted to know to point out that my cousin and I can't trade because it says it may be the same account, even though all he did was log into CN from my computer. I get why it did it, I just want to know if you could fit it, since we're not obviously not the same person. thanks!(: If you need any information just let me know!

                                                  Yattal ( nation )
                                                  RayBranch ( Friend)
                                                  Tripo ( His nation )

Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 1:49:11 July 1, 2014

Sorry, I have zero control over anything in-game in CyberNations. I'm just an administrator on the CyberNations Wiki. You should take a look at the Moderation section (and subforums) of the CyberNations forums. Best of luck Scottie. —  RogalDorn   07:03, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

War Names

I saw the dispute on the Riot War talk page about naming conventions, and was wondering if it would be better to go to a template style as a provisional naming convention, kind of like how RL wiki names things like natural disasters (see: 2014 West Africa Ebola outbreak). Use the names of the initial blocs/alliances on each side, with a numeric (2nd, 3rd, 4th) or year number if that article already exists. Each alliance's name for the conflict could be included elsewhere in the article.

For example, this would be the AZTEC-Riot Society War. If that had happened before, you could either call it the 2nd AZTEC-Riot Society War, or the 2014 AZTEC-Riot Society War.

The only exception I see is for global wars, where we might want to go with 11th Global War or July 2014 Global War as a provisional name.

Gopherbashi  Sanction Race Updater   00:07, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

This is a great idea. Isn't that how it mostly happens? Should be the standard. Walsh the Beloved (talk • contribs) 02:44, July 5, 2014 (UTC)
What would happen though if the sides weren't simply AZTEC and Riot Society, for example but included forces such as let's say (just out of the blue) Screaming Red Asses and The Imperial Order? The naming convention being proposed might not be the best for reflecting that and the current standard might be the best one to keep. Franz Ferdinand, Conquerer of Micros (talk • contribs) 01:17, July 6, 2014 (UTC)
Go with the larger main force. Anything's better than the current standard of keeping the name chosen by whoever manages to write the article first. Gopherbashi  Sanction Race Updater   03:06, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

Gopher has a great point. After all, this is a "simulation" game, so we really need to have times to be serious, and the not-so-serious ones, like alliance names. Realistic war names will make a lot of sense, and it is different from just choosing a name for a comedy movie. This has to have a standard, and then it can get to the point of "if there is an alternate name", use that. for example, let's say NPO and FAN are in war, just for example. It would be something like "1st AZTEC-Riot Society War". You would only state the sides that started the war, not the others that joined. Then, if a name became appropriate, a name would be determined by the general public. Rmoquin, aka Knights111 the Red. 11:53:23 July 6, 2014

Gotcha guys :P moved it to AZTEC-Riot Society War. Regarding the "2nd ... War" there's been a few times where that has been the name of a war, like Second NoR-LSF War. —  RogalDorn   22:51, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

NPO Flag description

/appears out of thin air

Hi, RogalDorn, snooping by this wiki as always, I took note of your indefinite blocking of this particular anon. Seeing his/her edit, what he/she actually did is, heraldically correct, the description he did merely describes the flag of NPO correctly as it would in heraldry. A "Gyronny" accurately describes the flag's design scheme (dividing the flag up into eight triangular pieces). "Azure" and "sable" are the proper names of the colors "blue" and black" respectively. Likewise, "or" means "gold". The description "Gyronny sable and azure, a five-pointed star Or" appears on the unaltered edit although it's inserted in the blazons parameter which does not appear on the final template table itself. I understand that the page itself should only be updated by NPO members but I believe that the edit was done in good faith and not an act of premeditated and intentional vandalism. JustinVuong | Talk | Nation 14:16, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

/appears out of thick air
Perhaps that template just needs a blazon parameter anyway. Awesome.gif (Also, hai Justin :3) ~ vonPreuſ3en
Eh, I knew they were correct but it's not something the average reader would understand I don't feel. Was an indefinite ban more than necessary? Probably, a simple warning could've sufficed :p Also, hai Justin and Anna! —  RogalDorn   05:14, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
Hai hai hai to all.~ Yeah, I guess a warning would have sufficed. A permanent ban is like a sledgehammer used on a gnat. Ah the joys of lurking. JustinVuong | Talk | Nation 12:17, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Ingame ban

Hello Regal Dorn. I was playing in cybernations at Anton11 for Rusica like I do always and all of a sudden when I tried to log in it said I was banned from Cybernations.I don't know why. I didn't write anything rude in the game or make myself another account. I was playing the game normally and all of a sudden banned. May I please know why and if it was a mistake, to get my account back?/ Thank you Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 06:35, November 14, 2014

Sorry Anton11, I in no way, shape or form have anything to do with anything related to disciplinary actions in-game. Sorry, wish I could help. —  RogalDorn   06:19, November 29, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Rogal, I have a request. I'm interested in either editing the MI6 page to add an awards section (which can be expanded or closed to minimize clutter on the page) or making a separate page that would be linked to on our wiki (like TIO has). Which would you recommend, and is there a template I can use? I also forget how to upload images to wiki to obtain .svg files, but I'm sure that's simply enough to find. I just need a little direction, then I can take care of the rest. I'm a little rusty, it's been a while since I've done any big wiki editing lol. Thanks for your help :)

--Kahlan Rahl (talk • contribs) 18:44, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think you can "use wikia to create a .svg file" =/ You can upload files using Special:Upload though :) and I don't think there would be anything wrong with basing the MI6 awards section on how Awards of the Imperial Order is layed out. If it does take up too much room you can collapse the table so you have to click "show" to expand the table and see the awards. I would suggest putting the awards section at the bottom of the MI6 page, right above the "See also" section. If you don't want to test out a bunch of stuff on the MI6 page feel free to use User:Kahlan Rahl/Sandbox to play around and then when you have it how you like it just copy/paste the code to the MI6 page. Hope this helps and if you need anything else don't be afraid to ax a brother, yo! —  RogalDorn   06:19, November 29, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks very much, especially for categorizing the images I just uploaded! That was unexpected, and made referencing them much easier. You da best Rogal. I've done it up in the sandbox, but it's quite a lot (and I have more to add later), so I think I'm going to model it on TIO's and just make a new page linking to the awards and ribbons from our main page. I do that from the main page, right? I can figure out how to link to it from referencing TIO's page, too. Thanks again Rogal, I appreciate your help! --Kahlan Rahl Talk Contributions 16:36, November 29, 2014 (UTC)
Hey no prob bob! :) Now all your awards are in that category which is also in Category:MI6. Ya you can link the awards page on the MI6 page just like The Imperial Order (2nd)#Awards. Nice new signature by the way!!! Wub.gif  RogalDorn   21:50, November 29, 2014 (UTC)
Indeed I did do that, I think it keeps the main page less cluttered, and allows for easier editing down the road, when we add more to the collection. And thanks! I saw all the fancy ones on your talk page here and I decided I just had to have one. I kind of stole the design from Gopher's, haha. Thanks again for your help. If you need it, when I'm done my term as M in MI6, I'd love to learn more about how to do stuff on the wiki. It's a lot of fun editing/updating pages! --Kahlan Rahl Talk Contributions 23:00, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

Collapsible Tables

Hey Rogal -- Is is possible to convert existing tables to collapsible tables, or does it require a whole new table to be created? Also, how do I shrink the overall footprint of my signature, simlar to Kahlen Rahl's?  WALSH THE BELOVED | Talk |18:16, Monday, 8 December 2014

For the second question, remove or lower the padding value padding:3px;. I'll let Rogal grab the other question because I'm honestly not sure. ~ vonPreuſ3en
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