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hey that RogalbuddyEdit

it seems that i have another question :P. its the fact that if you know any rp'ers that you know. i'll tell you why later Chao101 (talk • contribs) 13:56, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

 :wub: Edit

 :wub: Thanks!  ~   Nascar8FanGA    talk    nation   22:32, Monday, 7 January 2013 (ET)

 :wub:   Rogal  talk    00:56,1/10/2013 (UTC)


User: has been vandalizing and

Namayan--Namayan (talk • contribs) 09:57, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Namayan, I blocked the vandal for a day for vandalizing and protected the DB4D page for 2 weeks so only auto-confirmed users and above can edit it.   Rogal  talk    17:06,2/2/2013 (UTC)

delete requestEdit

I am requesting that all information for the account tadaram.maradas be totally removes from the CN Wiki website. That means totally deleted. I will check back with you within 5 business days. thank you. Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 01:30, February 17, 2013‎

If I delete it any admin can restore it so it wouldn't be permanent. You'll have to get with wikia staff through Special:Contact to have them remove the content and their revision history.   Rogal  talk   17:54,2/18/2013 (UTC)

Sorry Edit

Sorry about my signature braking here, I edit other wikis, you see, which I work the coding on. Thanks, I thought you might not be allowed to make an account on tournament because it says 1) You are not allowed to make more than one account on "CyberNations" and also 2) Impersonating a Standard CyberNations member may lead to a ban from cybernations. Happy65 Talk GPA 17:47, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, as far as the sig thing, no worries. just copy over your user:happy65/SignatureHappy from the other wiki and make it here and you're all good. :) For the rules, you're allowed to have 1 TE nation and 1 SE nation though so no worries. Cheers,   Rogal  talk   17:48,2/18/2013 (UTC)
Do you have a Standard and Tournament edition nation? I saw your standard nation in that japanese alliance. Happy65 Talk GPA 17:54, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
I did have a TE nation but TE isn't really for me, I didn't enjoy it. If you're in GPA they have that cool War Doves alliance in TE if I recall correctly. I think Dragonshy and Kurdanak are involved with that.   Rogal  talk   17:56,2/18/2013 (UTC)

It says I cannot use any Cybernation standard name... Happy65 Talk GPA 18:01, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Just make a new one, thats what I did.   Rogal  talk   18:09,2/18/2013 (UTC)

Hiya Edit

Hiya again. I'm going to be editing here, I like this wiki alot. Now I joined Tournament Edition, I have gathered lots of information, it seems the Tournament Edition alliance pages are quite bad here, and most of the Top 10# alliances on TE don't have pages, so I'll be clearing it up. Happy65 Talk GPA 20:15, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Cleanup What is Kosta klifov and Kosta Klifov. Happy65 Talk GPA 20:18, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea what that/those are. I would just redirect one to the other personally. I haven't worked on any of the TE alliance pages, most of my contributions were keeping treaties updated, adding pages for CN players, updating/expanding alliance pages and other random miscellaneous projects. Cheers,   Rogal  talk   20:52,2/19/2013 (UTC)

To me, it looks like extremely bad grammar pages. Happy65 Talk GPA 06:50, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, that too lol. :p   Rogal  talk   07:06,2/20/2013 (UTC)
Someone declared war on me in tournament, that's it! I'm sending my nuclear weapons in. Happy65 Talk GPA 07:27, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
Best of luck! Kick some ass.   Rogal  talk   01:43,2/21/2013 (UTC)

Protection Treaty Edit

I would like to put on the table a protection treaty down on the table for both of our Standard Edition nations:

1) The two nations owned by the Wikia users, RogalDorn and Happy65 will not declare war on each other.

2) Every 20 days, if there is an ongoing war to do with one of the nations, the other nation in the agreement shall give 50 soldiers.

Happy65 Talk GPA 15:43, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Surely, 50 soldiers isn't a whole lot though. How about if you get into trouble I'll send you 3mil and 2,000 soldiers every 10 days for as long as you need it. :)   Rogal  talk   01:43,2/21/2013 (UTC)

Don't have that money, unfortunately I like deals to be fair for both sides. :( Happy65 Talk WTF 08:24, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Oh I just meant that in the event you need help I'd send it to you. 50 soldiers isn't much to me when I lose tens of thousands in just one battle. I appreciate the offer though. :)   Rogal  talk   10:16,2/21/2013 (UTC)

Well, I will give you 10-5000 soldiers every war, if you give me 1-3M when I am in war. Happy65 Talk GPA 11:08, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I am now in anarchy thanks to a alliance that I am thinking about declaration of war against. Happy65 Talk NAO 16:23, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Political Stance Edit

Just wondering what your (message headline) is. Happy65 Talk WTF 18:17, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Roggggal Edit

Wb. Why did you leave CN? Happy65 Talk NAO 07:59, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

RL seriously bit me in the ass this winter :3.  Rogal  talk   07:14,5/1/2013 (UTC)

biased articlesEdit

Hello RogalDorn, could I ask your evaluation of these 2 pages and to make a statement on the most biased? Thanks.

--The Nuke371 (talk • contribs) 05:18, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

I have been so out of it since my last nation deleted in february (i think?) But I'll take a look at these when I get some free time. I assume you meant to just link me to the articles themselves and not those exact diffs.   Rogal  talk   07:14,5/1/2013 (UTC)


Hey Rogal,

Was just wondering if there's any way to download wikipage as a pdf file?

CloudSpirit (talk • contribs) 11:16, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

I don't believe you can download it as a PDF no. :/ sorry   Rogal  talk   07:14,5/1/2013 (UTC)

Rawr Edit

Lookie what I made for absolutely no reason at 7am! Bam. It should look decent on all the pages that use it, see Prototype for example. Could still be improved - notably removing the space reserved for the div, and also I could probably format it on two lines for long names, and it probably is horrifically broken for anyone whose display is different from mine, but it's cool anyway :P. Whaddaya think?  Bobogoobo | Talk | Nation 06:58, Thursday, 2 May 2013 (ET)

Haha, that's a nifty idea! Although for alliance's with longer names like Anti-Alliance Defense Network of Independent Nations, as an example, it doesn't really work. Medium-sized names too for that matter :( (example: Obsidian Entente). What about making the graphic itself wider?   Rogal  talk   11:50,5/2/2013 (UTC)
I think the graphic is already plenty wide, this is just for fun and shouldn't really affect the template too much. I could make a separate display parameter for the longer ones I suppose, so we could use an acronym or something. Also, for people using the default layout, there can be problems with the offset when the name or link take up more than one line. Could fix that by putting the template before the alliance infobox; I think it's supposed to be there anyway.  Bobogoobo | Talk | Nation 17:42, Thursday, 2 May 2013 (ET)

Re:Justin! Edit

Heh heh, sorry for the late reply, I've been doing great Rogal. I've been busy IRL and on the RP--also got recently into Minecraft :v How about you? JustinVuong | Talk | Nation 18:40, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

No worries, how's the CNRP going post dissolution sphere doing these days? I miss seeing you guys around here xD the wiki seemed more lively back then :p
I'm not up to much though, I had an unintended 2 month break from the game so I remade my nation for the umpteenth time, grr.   Rogal  talk   18:56,5/8/2013 (UTC)

re: Commons question! Edit

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Hello. You have new messages at Michael von Preußen's talk page.

Message Edit

Hello RogalDorn.

I'm glad to see you've returned, you were the true influence of the CyberNations Wiki and you were needed here. I'm probably going to get rid of my alliance, it's useless and does not do much at all and it is incredibly hard to get any strength on CN with it. I will resume my editing on this wiki for now, however there's massive projects I need to work on otherwise and I won't have time for CyberNations soon.

I wouldn't consider myself that good at CyberNations so I have a question to ask you, should I leave my alliance for the New Polar Order? I'm not sure myself, I would personally jump in straight away for that option, but I guess I could be classed as quite a n00b to the game.

Edit: As a former New Pacific Order member, I think I have figured out what your reply will be.

Happy65 Talk NAO 18:35, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

template:flag Edit

hi there, could you add SLAP's flag to the template?


Thanks, Louis Balfour (talk • contribs) 14:44, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

I was free, so I did it: Slapflag.   Michael von Preußen | talk
Danke!   RogalDorn   02:26, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Template Previews Edit

So I was editing a template on Wikipedia today and noticed that it now gave the ability to preview not only the template you're editing, but also any other page, to see what that page will look like with the edits to the template you're making. Dunno if I'm late to the party or not, but I found this exceptionally useful, and thought I'd leave you a note about it. :3   Michael von Preußen | talk

O.o I hadn't noticed that. I think the last time I edited a template over there was one I made... wikipedia:Template:unit awards table.   RogalDorn   02:28, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
That sounds extremely useful. There are probably a lot of Wikipedia features and gadgets we should port to Wikia.  Bobogoobo | Talk | Nation 03:12, Friday, 6 September 2013 (ET)
Interesting, I noticed this today and thought of our little convo here. :)   RogalDorn   05:27, September 8, 2013 (UTC)
Oooooooooooooooooohh, purdy. Now we need to get this extension in place over here. :P   Michael von Preußen | talk

Hatnote Edit

Oooh, I like that idea! Provides some nice revision control!   Michael von Preußen | talk

Although I notice for some reason it's not showing up for me when I load the page at an anchor, like at #Hatnote.   Michael von Preußen | talk
I would've loved to used {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} but that outputs time in a format like this 20140204062323 which is discernable but not easily as say "2013 October 10, 05:08:24 " is... If that magic word had a better output I would've made the hatnote say "Hello blah! This page was last edited or modified by Michael von Preußen (talk) on <revision timestamp>.
As far as that anchor bug goes idk, that's weird. Initially I thought it would be a cache problem but I purged the page and still nothing. :( Interestingly enough User_talk:RogalDorn#top still works.   RogalDorn   05:12, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
How about {{#time:r|{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}}}—Tue, 04 Feb 2014 06:23:23 +0000—or some other variant of #time?   Michael von Preußen | talk

Brilliant! I've never played with the time parser before today really. I like this format for the revision timestamp...

  • {{#time: l G:i:s F j, Y |{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}}} (UTC)
  • Tuesday 6:23:23 February 4, 2014 (UTC).

Huzzah! —  RogalDorn   05:33, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

So {{outdent}} is totally broken, heh. Noticed that on my talk page yesterday but thought it was my browser or something. Also, doing some poking around. Turns out that going to a new anchor doesn't remove the hatnote, it just... mysteriously hides it behind the element that contains the 'Leave message/edit' button. I'm going to keep prodding and see if I can't figure out the cause of the error.   Michael von Preußen | talk
Yeah I wonder why it's broken, it still works perfectly fine on WP. Hrmm, just an idea but could it be our custom css that hide it? —  RogalDorn   05:43, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps, but I don't think so. I'm still poking, but it turns out, without the hatnote, the top of the orange table gets hidden. Never noticed it because generally, when you hit to an anchor, you don't look back at the top of the page again. I think there might be JavaScript moving the page up for some unfathomable reason, but I'm not totally sure of the actual mechanism yet.   Michael von Preußen | talk
The line becomes in line with the leave a message button, which I don't think should make it invisible. I'd be inclined to blame the unclosed tags and improper nesting in the table, though some JS thing is possible. Still a weird phenomenon :P.  Bobogoobo | Talk | Nation 06:57, Thursday, 10 October 2013 (ET)
Well, I knew it had something to do with the actual layout, because it doesn't happen on history pages. But you're right: that div doesn't have a white background, as I'd thought, so it couldn't be that hiding it. That led me to look at the inner article div itself, #WikiaArticle. Examining that, I see the main Oasis stylesheet, oasis.scss, gives it an overflow value of hidden (the same attribute that's supposed to be keeping {{outdent}} in line <_<). This is preventing the top part from showing up when... something raises the content of #WikiaArticle within the element itself. Still working on that something, though. <_<   Michael von Preußen | talk
Problem is definitely User:RogalDorn/r, which for some strange reason, only appears when you click the anchors, and otherwise doesn't. Is that intentional? Anyway, removing it stops the page from jumping up.   Michael von Preußen | talk
Sounds good, removed it. I wonder why that broke, it used to always show no matter what. Oh well, I guess no more scaring innocent bystanders and unsuspecting patrons. —  RogalDorn   16:45, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
It's quite possible Wikia has some legitimate reason I'm not seeing for actually moving the page up, and that template is actually being hidden beneath the page just like the hatnote gets hidden above it. Normally, no one would notice it, because there's a reason, whatever it is: except because your template is absolutely positioned, it breaks the page instead. I'm going to experiment later and see if I can't force it to work.   Michael von Preußen | talk
Absolute positioning seems to tend to break things for some reason.  Bobogoobo | Talk | Nation 19:27, Thursday, 10 October 2013 (ET)
Oh? I didn't realize that >.< —  RogalDorn   00:05, October 11, 2013 (UTC)
Hrmm, yeah I made it just as a fun thing on the side so meh. Oh well :p —  RogalDorn   00:05, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

My Thoughts on the New Visual Editor Edit

I think I did a good job of summarizing my feelings.   Michael von Preußen | talk

I tested it out and I hated it... as expected. Feel free to contribute to my amazing article though xD. —  RogalDorn   01:29, October 16, 2013 (UTC)
Lol. I like it above the current one because we'll be able to use complex templates on it. On the MLP wiki that's been inhibiting my freedom to be a template madman :P. Heck I might even use it if there are useful functions.  Bobogoobo | Talk | Nation 22:44, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 (ET)
Yeah, it's certainly an upgrade, and it's also had some time to have bugs ironed out on Wikipedia. But I still don't like it compared to wikitext. What gets me is their introduction post goes on about how all these MediaWiki communities, from Wikimedia to Wikia and other groups, were all built on this amazing wikitext code. 'And that's why we're getting rid of it!' I just don't get it. Why take such an amazingly malleable markup language and replace it with a visual editor, when visual editors have (in my experience, at least) never worked with HTML. They're great for word processors like Microsoft Word, but they're just terrible for building websites—at its base because websites have to end up existing in HTML, which doesn't lend itself to visual editing, but on top of that because browser differences mean that how something looks in one browser may not be how it looks elsewhere. It's just creating a nightmare for no added gain. All this nonsense about it being easier to use for new members is, well, nonsense: if new users had such difficulty learning wikitext, all the communities they're so proud of that use it wouldn't exist.   Michael von Preußen | talk
True about visual HTML editors, but I think you underestimate how much (often good) content now comes from people who don't know any wikicode. Wikicode takes a while to learn and longer to master, whereas a visual editor lets someone change things much more easily (where code is involved, anyway). It's much less intimidating. Sometimes these editors can be quite helpful, and in many cases the people who stick around eventually learn wikicode anyway.  Bobogoobo | Talk | Nation 01:29, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 (ET)


Hey there thanks for the offer of help II need a great deal of help as I am not CN wiki savvy at all. I need our page to look like a serious alliance rather than rank amateurs as it does now. HA HA seven years in the game and I still cant work this thing out. Preceding unsigned comment added by manussa (talk • contribs) 13:26, November 2, 2013

Oh, well basically just take a look at other alliances for ideas of what sort of stuff to add. —  RogalDorn   02:02, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Wars Edit

Rogal -- Originally I includedthe TTE-UOKMB war in Jihad on Neutrality because it was tangentially connected. After doing some more investigation, I'm thinking that the it has kind of taken on a life of its own and perhaps deserves its own page.

Also wondering about the DBDC actions of late also meriting some kind of mention. It seems to be bigger and more brazen than simple tech raids -- thoughts? I will pm Cuba to get some more info. Walsh the Beloved (talk • contribs) 21:23, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I'm not sure what all happened with TTE-UOKMB other than TTE was involved in the Jihad on the crusader side and UOKMB spied them and TTE declared war... at least as far as i recall... IMO sounds like a CB for a separate war that's linked...
Regarding DBDC's recent actions I have no idea. They haven't made one DoW to my knowledge and just seem to be hitting anyone and everyone in the top tier of nations regardless of AA... Maybe make an addition to their alliance page saying that during the NpO-NSO War they hit a ton of alliances and whatnot...
If there is anything else I could help with feel free to give me a shout. —  RogalDorn   02:29, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
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