Talk:BiPolar 2: Electron's Boogaloo

Page issues

Issues of form/style

Dates vs Times [Resolved] --

The times of declarations of war should be consistent, either time and date or just date. I think the time is unnecessary, but I am not sure what is the preferred standard. Basically if it is consistent, it's better, looks more professional and reads better.

Spacing Issues [Resolved]

There seems to be some kind of issue with the spacing between nation amounts in the right column. I'm not sure what is causing this, any help in fixing it would be good. It was that way to begin with, and seems to have become a bit worse when I added CLAWS. No idea why.

Other Issues

CB, War Date, background, etc. [Seemingly Resolved]

"In retaliation of DOOM's open ended DoW" as the CB seems a bit counterfactual, as DOOM here seems to refer to Friends of Doom, or the broader Doomsphere, but is referring to a linked DBDC declaration. It is obvious though, that the CB should be rephrased, otherwise the war date has to be moved back to the DBDC declaration date as written, which is inaccurate. Is it worth bringing up the UCR conflict that is ongoing? Perhaps.

It looks like the merging of the UCR / Doom conflicts into a greater "war" has circumvented this issue, so it's resolved! Tevron2 (talk • contribs) 10:20, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Balance [Resolved, hopefully]

"The forces of FTW & NATO were upset that the forces of Doom would raid whenever they wanted, to whomever they wanted and when they would get called out for this, they would hide behind the treaties that they have with CLAWS and New Pacific Order."

This language is couched in a lot of opinionated rhetoric that promotes one of the side's viewpoints. It should instead reflect the facts. For example: "FTW & NATO responded to Doom raids, citing the precedent for Doom nations to raid many alliances without facing repercussions." -- since the CB doesn't seem to cite the latter half, it could be included in the background perhaps, but I would suggest rephrasing it to indicate it as a viewpoint.

Inaccuracies or Clarification Required [WIP]

" In the DoW, they declared war on everyone, except for those that they didn't." -- in the background section, it might be worth referring to why this declaration of war was made. It was in response to the criticisms raised by "The Day Today" postings and other threads discussing the "raids" from DBDC. The post was their claim that they were not making raids at all, but rather wars.

"This move recieved heavy criticism as Non Grata's MDoAP with NpO was one of their oldest treaties."

Other than the spelling error (received), the criticism isn't because of the age of the treaty, (nor was the treaty one of NpO's oldest treaties, it had been signed after their reformation, making it one of their newer treaties). The criticism is clearly due to the ongoing war, not the age of the treaty.

"NPO also announced that they were cancelling their MDoAP with NATO, also their oldest active treaty." NpO-NG was not the oldest active treaty for NpO (though it was for NG, the grammar is incorrect). The NPO announcement link is missing, it should be indicated if it was private or public. Additionally, IRON cancellations are missing.

Tevron2 (talk • contribs) 23:22, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

I encourage you to be bold in correcting inaccuracies/inconsistencies and bias issues. The spacing issue was due to the blank lines between the information, which adds a new paragraph tag.  Bobogoobo | Talk | Nation 17:08, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 (ET)

I have made as many of the sweeping edits as I can think of to address the majority of the issues. Tevron2 (talk • contribs) 08:07, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Name of the war

If you guys want to give this war a 2nd name, then by all means, go for it. I really must insist that Herogasm remain though. The name is too good to change it. Smitty256 (talk • contribs) 22:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

That's no matter for us to debate about on the wiki, but rather on the battlefield and in peace, as these things are most often done, which is why I haven't incited any wiki-renaming-war. Tevron2 (talk • contribs) 10:21, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Reasons for the war

"The war was spurred by the recent ODoAP between the New Polar Order and Argent as well as the NAP signed between CLAWS and NpO."

Yeah, that had nothing to do with the war against Doom. So I don't know why it was added to the page. I know that at the time that Tevron was doing his edits, I wasn't able to respond. We declared war on Doom in spite of the fact that they are allied to Oculus and RFI. So CLAWS and Argent signing treaties with NpO had nothing to do with it. Smitty256 (talk • contribs) 18:06, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

According to Xine of The Legion, this is the case. You can mark it as disputed if you'd like, but from my sources of information, that is the case. Tevron2 (talk • contribs) 10:13, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

I am going to mark it as disputed. I was there for the war planning phase, so I have direct knowledge of what went down. The ODoAP between Polaris and Argent, and the NAP between CLAWS and Polaris didn't have anything to do with the war against Doom. Smitty256 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Nation Counts?

Nation counts seem to be inaccurate, they included pending members for some alliances but not others. I don't see how that can be rectified now, but I think that it should have been consistent from the start. If final nation counts are added at the end, we should try to keep it consistent there. Tevron2 (talk • contribs) 10:15, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

I usually go off what the actual alliance page for said alliance says. I think the number on the alliance page includes pending members. If I made a mistake in the numbers of an alliance, it was unintentional. Smitty256 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Please lock this page to stop vandalism

Will one of the site Moderators please place a lock on this page so as to stop page vandalism? A naming war is the last thing that should happen right now. So, please place a lock on the page until the name of the war is settled.Smitty256 (talk • contribs) 19:57, 27 September 2022 (UTC)