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unlock front page

Can we unlock the front page yet? Is that a permanent change? If so, then can we have some sort of vote about reverting back to an editable page? -- Alphacow 19:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, currently most of the main page is editable via templates which isn't really that difficult. It's locked so very simple, and previously frequent vandalism is stopped, or at least deterred. Is there a need for it to be unlocked? If there are minor errors, feel free to suggest changes and they'll be put in asap. If you have a new design for the page, try it out in your userspace first, then discuss it here, as it stands, we have enough activity and vandalism to warrant locking the main page. -- Mason11987 (T - C - E -CN) 10:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
All right, that sounds good. I'll make my suggestions under a new heading. -- Alphacow 16:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I only locked it because all valid edits should go through a template, unless you are rearranging the page, everything on the page has a template. Aido2002((talk)) 21:29, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Front Page layout changes - proposed

Please comment on either or both of the above. Admins, feel free to split this up if you think having two items to vote on at once it too difficult. -- Alphacow 16:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

  1. Firstly, thanks for incorporating my "nav section" suggestion. Hoever, that should definitely be its own template, not part of the "welcome" one. Making the template is easy; I can do that. I just need an admin to add it. -- Alphacow 16:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
    how bout this? still part of the welcome one, but I think it looks nice being within the same box. Other options include having the welcome template have the top tags for the box, and the subject nav have the closing ones, but I think that could be asking for trouble. Or, we could have the box tags on the main page itself, surrounding the templates, which... may be a better option. What do we think? -- this unsigned comment was added by Mason11987
    I just saw this comment now. I like it, but I think you're focusing on the wrong things. I'm thinking of quick answer things, stuff that newbies will encounter and want answers to, such as government types, info about trades, how to increase environment, stuff like that. For now, though, that'll do just fine. -- Alphacow talk 19:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. Secondly, I would like to propose removing the "did you know?" section and replacing its spot on the front page with the "news" section. My rationale is this: most folks who come here don't care about the fact that Bob Kishintuchus's nation has an emu on its flag, but they do care about knowing why the global radiation is at 3.00. Regarding the placement thing, well, the news item is currently on its own row, and aesthetically that's sort of not in line with the two-column layout we were working with.
    Good point, how about having the news in the place of the did you know, and having the did you know below the news? -- Mason11987 (T - C - E -CN) 17:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
    I like that better, but I still think it's worth getting rid of that section entirely, at least until we have useful facts to put there. -- Alphacow talk 04:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
    Interesting... anyone else have any thoughts? -- Mason11987 (T - C - E -CN) 05:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Addressed both of these concerns in the following section with my test, feel free to discuss there as well. -- Mason11987 (T - C - E -CN) 17:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I like it. I still want the nav to be separate from the welcome template, but it looks good. I'll work on that tomorrow. -- Alphacow talk 04:29, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Nation Wiki of the Week

What do you guys think of a Nation Wiki of the Week type of thing. It would give people a reason to make their nation wiki's a little more interesting for people to read and such. Just my random noob suggestion. =P - Metnik 04:24, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I do like it, and it could be a perfect pair with the idea above... Here is a layout proposal User:Mason11987/Main Page test. -- Mason11987 (T - C - E -CN) 17:31, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:Alliance_infobox

I'm going to try to change most of the sanctioned alliances to using the alliance infobox, if anyone would like to help, feel free to do so. I'm first going to work on alliances without any infobox, then change the current ones that exist as raw code in the article. -- Mason11987 (T - C - E -CN) 00:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

css stuff

I just noticed that a third-level heading has a line under it. While I could argue against this from a simple readability standpoint, I'll take a different tack; most people are familiar with wikipedia, and this is not how they have it, and it'll confuse people. I think we should try to make our (within-article) css mimic theirs as much as possible, both because (a) they did a really good job, and (b) we don't want to confuse people.

Assuming you guys think this is an OK idea, I'd be willing to fix this up myself, but I have no idea what to edit to do it. After we discuss it, if someone lets me know where the css file is (assuming its easily accessed), I'll fix it myself. -- Alphacow talk 22:08, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Example CN test - WP test
Interesting, I didn't notice that before. I'm going to look around to find out how to change this. -- Mason11987 (T - C - E -CN) 00:29, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, good news and bad news. I found where its located: check out the monobook css, right at the top. I have already changed it, so look at the history one revision back. h1, h2, and h3 were all set to have an underline, whereas h4, h5, and h6 weren't. I moved h3 to be with h4, 5, and 6. However, it didn't seem to solve the problem, at least not on my computer, which makes me wonder what else needs to be changed. I kind of thought that was it. Maybe its a cache thing... I reset my cache and it didn't change, but who knows? Please post if anything looks different to you. -- Alphacow talk 04:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
It's working for me, nice fix. Try refreshing your cache again. -- Mason11987 (T - C - E -CN) 05:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
works for me now, too. Must be something special about the fifth time you hit the clear cache button that doesn't happen for the first four. Meh. Glad that it worked. -- Alphacow talk 05:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

scrap "did you know"

Support It hasn't been updated in a month, and before that, it went a month before being updated. Aside from the stuff I've said previously (doesn't add much, takes up space, etc.), it seems to just gather dust. I say scrap it. -- Alphacow talk 15:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Support Agreed for reasons explained above. I'm leaving a note for User:j Andres and User:aido2002 as well, but of course anyone is willing to have their say here. -- Mason11987 (T - C - E -CN) 15:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Support It just didn't work out. I already do now know that Templuria's flag had a tank on it before they purchased their first tank. J Andres 20:51, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Support Yes, it didn't work out. I'll try again sometime later when there are more things to let people know. :) Aido2002((talk)) 21:21, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Community Portal

In trying to come up with a way to organize all the various projects going on, I came up with this. The idea is basically copied from wikipedia. I think it'll help us know what each of us is working on, and allowing us and others to easily view the ongoing projects and help with them. If you guys like it I'll put it in the navigation box on the side. -- Alphacow talk 04:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I like it, go for it. -- Mason11987 (T - C - E -CN) 04:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Absence

As is most likely clear to regular editors of this Wiki, I have been absent for quite some time now. This is simply because I have been busy lately, and have found less and less time to help out around here. For this reason, this shall be my official notification of absence. It does not mean I will never return to the Wiki--I intend to-- but after I stopped playing Cyber Nations several months ago, I'll admit, I lost some interest in the CN wiki. I shall keep my position as a bureaucrat, and I can be contacted by clicking the "E-mail this User" link in the toolbox to the left, on my user page. Once again, I intend to return to this Wiki sometime in the future, so good luck to all of you. --Aido2002((talk)) 19:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

TO be honest, I was wondering where the other admins were. J Andres 20:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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